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  No Ellipse, Please   -   Chuck Pelto
   Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   joe strout.net
    Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Chuck Pelto
     Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   joe strout.net
      Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Chuck Pelto
      Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Arnaud Nicolet
    Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Terry Ford
    Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Chuck Pelto
     Re: No Ellipse, Please   -   Christian Schmitz

No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 21:00 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:00:45 -0700)
From: Chuck Pelto
I've got a popup menu that has a symbol and a textual explanation of
what the symbol means on each line of the initial value.

The popup menu is intended to be narrow, so that when not popped,
only the symbol with show. There are several spaces between the
symbol and the textual explanation.

However, after a symbol has been selected and the menu is not popped
up, RB adds ellipse to the viewable part of the menu object.

How do I stop those things, the ellipse, from showing up?

Regards,

Chuck
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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 21:51 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:51:00 -0700)
From: joe strout.net
On Jan 12, 2007, at 20:00 UTC, Chuck Pelto wrote:

> However, after a symbol has been selected and the menu is not popped
> up, RB adds ellipse to the viewable part of the menu object.

Ah, you mean an ellipsis. This is done by the OS, and only on the Mac;
on Windows, it's even worse: the whole popup menu will be expanded in
width (possibly clobbering neighboring controls) to make the full text
visible.

I think what you want here is a BevelButton, on which you draw the
symbol, and in the attached menu, have both symbol and text. This
should work on all platforms, I think.

Best,
- Joe

Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 22:35 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:35:29 -0700)
From: Chuck Pelto

On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:51 PM, <email address removed> wrote:

> Ah, you mean an ellipsis. This is done by the OS, and only on the
> Mac;
> on Windows, it's even worse: the whole popup menu will be expanded in
> width (possibly clobbering neighboring controls) to make the full text
> visible.

Oh. That's just 'jolly'.

> I think what you want here is a BevelButton, on which you draw the
> symbol, and in the attached menu, have both symbol and text. This
> should work on all platforms, I think.

That would take up entirely TOO MUCH SPACE.

YO!

Guys at REAL Soft. You need to FIX this aspect of Popup Menu
behavior. I recommend a property that can turn on or off this
egregious behavior.

Regards,

Chuck
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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 22:37 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:37:54 -0700)
From: joe strout.net
On Jan 12, 2007, at 21:35 UTC, Chuck Pelto wrote:

> Guys at REAL Soft. You need to FIX this aspect of Popup Menu
> behavior. I recommend a property that can turn on or off this
> egregious behavior.

It's a behavior of the OS, not a behavior of REALbasic. But I guess
you could file a feature request anyway, in case they think it worth
trying to find some work-around.

Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 22:44 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:44:15 -0700)
From: Chuck Pelto

On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:37 PM, <email address removed> wrote:

> It's a behavior of the OS, not a behavior of REALbasic. But I guess
> you could file a feature request anyway, in case they think it worth
> trying to find some work-around.

Done that.

We'll see what transpires....

Regards,

Chuck
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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 13.01.07 00:48 (Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:48:05 +0100)
From: Arnaud Nicolet
Le 12 janv. 07 à 22:37 Soir, <email address removed> a écrit:

> On Jan 12, 2007, at 21:35 UTC, Chuck Pelto wrote:
>
>> Guys at REAL Soft. You need to FIX this aspect of Popup Menu
>> behavior. I recommend a property that can turn on or off this
>> egregious behavior.
>
> It's a behavior of the OS, not a behavior of REALbasic. But I guess
> you could file a feature request anyway, in case they think it worth
> trying to find some work-around.

Is it not written in the Apple Interface Guidelines that an ellipsis
must be present if the text is too long?
Even if RS make a popup menu that is completely made from a canvas
(to avoid OS behaviours), I think the ellipsis must be there._______________________________________________
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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 22:37 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:37:59 -0800)
From: Terry Ford

On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Chuck Pelto wrote:

> Guys at REAL Soft. You need to FIX this aspect of Popup Menu
> behavior. I recommend a property that can turn on or off this
> egregious behavior.

Make a Feature Request then.

Terry

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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 12.01.07 22:44 (Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:44:58 -0700)
From: Chuck Pelto
Hi Terry,

On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Terry Ford wrote:

> Make a Feature Request then.

Been there. Done that. Waiting for the t-shirt.....

But I'll settle for a coffee mug.

Regards,

Chuck
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Re: No Ellipse, Please
Date: 13.01.07 02:35 (Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:35:50 +0100)
From: Christian Schmitz
Chuck Pelto <<email address removed>> wrote:

> > Make a Feature Request then.
>
> Been there. Done that. Waiting for the t-shirt.....

I've an better idea: Make your own button using a canvas.

Gruß
Christian

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