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| applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 20:25 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:25:11 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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Hi -
I'm trying to save a file to a folder in the applicationSupportFolder but I'm running into a problem that it doesn't exist. Ok so I point to it f pplicationSupportFolder.child("PS") then see if one exists or nil. If no folder, then create one f.createAsFolder Then I check again for nil or exists and it comes up exists is false. Is there something special you need to do with applicationSupportFolder ? I gotten my app to work with Document folder but the app one is being a problem. I looked in the applicationSupportFolder and no folder has been created. Thanks Eric _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 03:46 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:46:04 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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>>> >>> In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about >>> 2004/2005 ish) >>> >> Yeah nothing like using a spoon when you need a bulldozer . LOL > > Or a machete when you need a scalpel ? LOL.. that too ! ;-) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 03:36 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:36:59 -0800) |
| From: fargo rpgportland.com |
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> On 1-Mar-10, at 5:37 PM, ER wrote: > >> >>> >>> >>> In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about >>> 2004/2005 ish) >>> >> Yeah nothing like using a spoon when you need a bulldozer . LOL > > Or a machete when you need a scalpel ? > My favorite line along those lines is "Never howitzer a housefly". _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 03:28 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:28:44 -0700) |
| From: Norman Palardy |
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On 1-Mar-10, at 5:37 PM, ER wrote: > >> >> In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about >> 2004/2005 ish) >> > Yeah nothing like using a spoon when you need a bulldozer . LOL Or a machete when you need a scalpel ? _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 02:02 (Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:02:33 +0100) |
| From: Someone |
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> Some may complain that this code will fail as soon as Apple changes
> the folder structure of Mac OS X, but IIRC it has been the same > since Mac OS X 10.0 (at least concerning the Preferences and the > Application Support folder). Well, anything can change by Apple. For instance, if someone relies on a shell command and Apple remove it, then he will need to make a new version of his application. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 01:37 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:37:56 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> > In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about > 2004/2005 ish) > Yeah nothing like using a spoon when you need a bulldozer . LOL _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 01:37 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:37:16 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> > Well, the "users" one isn't more important than the "root" one, you > know… > _______________________________________________ Well as far as the importances goes.. not something I'm real knowledgeable about. I just presume, more or less, root is off limits and the "user" place is where it should go. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 01:34 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:34:15 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> > Some may complain that this code will fail as soon as Apple changes > the folder structure of Mac OS X, but IIRC it has been the same > since Mac OS X 10.0 (at least concerning the Preferences and the > Application Support folder). > > Gruß > Christian > Ahh well I don't for seeing it change anytime soon, but even if it does, just have to change my code, well until I can upgrade! ;-) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 01:25 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:25:04 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2237?viewlocaleà_US > -5000 accessDenied Incorrect access for this file/folder > > and in 5.5 ApplicationSupport is the one in The currently active > system folder (I don't know if that is /System/Library/ > ApplicationSupport or /Library/ApplicationSupport on OS X) > which is probably not the one you want and that you cant just write > to willy nilly. > > What you really probably want is > PreferencesFolder.Parent.Child("Application Support").Child( .... my > app ...... ).child( .. file .....) > which should be in the Users home folder > Library > Application > Support > my app > y data file > (or something like that) > > This is one of those things that's been fixed over the years to make > it much easier on you > Ah I see. I guess other options could the Documents folder, or Pref's folder. and not worry about the Application Support folder. Yeah I just need to upgrade.. which will be soon.(if all goes well) Thnaks! _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 00:01 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:01:32 -0700) |
| From: Norman Palardy |
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On 1-Mar-10, at 3:23 PM, Christian Dorn wrote: > I don't know which version you're using, In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about 2004/2005 ish) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 00:33 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:33:23 -0800 (PST)) |
| From: Lennox Jacob |
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2010R1
Dim f as FolderItem f = SpecialFolder.ApplicationData if f = nil then MsgBox "Nil folderitem for Application Support" return // or whatever is appropriate where your code resides, same for all the other returns here end if Lennox --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Norman Palardy <<email address removed>> wrote: From: Norman Palardy <<email address removed>> Subject: Re: applicationSupportFolder To: "REALbasic NUG" <<email address removed>> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:01 PM On 1-Mar-10, at 3:23 PM, Christian Dorn wrote: > I don't know which version you're using, In a previous post he said 5.5 (not 2009r5 etc but 5.5 from about 2004/2005 ish) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 01:39 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:39:26 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> You are correct for 2010R1; however, the original poster had, > earlier in the same day, posted a similar problem and in that post > stated he was using RB 5.5 and the folderitem statements he showed > confirmed that fact. Then he made this new post and at the beginning > of it he stated that he had the earlier problem working. Therefore I > assumed that he was still referring to RB 5.5 and wrote the > folderitem statement accordingly. > Mesa bad.. I'll have a new Rb soon. I hope ;-) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 02.03.10 00:45 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:45:43 -0600) |
| From: Harrie Westphal |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Lennox Jacob wrote: > 2010R1 > Dim f as FolderItem > > f ESpecialFolder.ApplicationData You are correct for 2010R1; however, the original poster had, earlier in the same day, posted a similar problem and in that post stated he was using RB 5.5 and the folderitem statements he showed confirmed that fact. Then he made this new post and at the beginning of it he stated that he had the earlier problem working. Therefore I assumed that he was still referring to RB 5.5 and wrote the folderitem statement accordingly. t A Mac addict in Tennessee u _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:24 (Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:24:10 +0100) |
| From: Someone |
|
Le 1 mars 10 à 23:03, ER a écrit:
>>> It gives me -5000 >> >> -5000 is indeed a permission problem. >> >> Are you sure you're pointing in the same folder (in your app and >> in the test you made in the Finder) and the app is running as the >> same user as you (same as the Finder)? Check the absolute path of >> your folderitem to be sure. > > Looks like f = applicationSupportFolder doesn't point to where I > though it did. Appears it points to the root/admin (whatever) > not the users, which seems kind of odd to me. I would think it > would point to the users. Well, the "users" one isn't more important than the "root" one, you know… _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:23 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:23:50 +0100) |
| From: Christian Dorn |
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I don't know which version you're using, but in 2007r3 (which is the oldest version I've installed, maybe it was introduced even earlier) there is the new SpecialFolder module that provides a method to get the user's Application Support folder. Try "f = SpecialFolder.ApplicationData". In even newer version the SpecialFolder module provides a method that lets you get the global Application Support folder again: SpecialFolder.SharedApplicationData.
> Humm.. I thought it pointed to the users, no the admin/root (whatever its called). At least I would thing > that would be logical thing to do, point to the users Application Support folder. That was something that always bugged me before the SpecialFolder module was introduced. But it was easy to build my own UserApplicationFolder method: Function UserApplicationFolder() As FolderItem return PreferencesFolder.parent.child("Application Support") Exception err as NilObjectException return nil End Function Some may complain that this code will fail as soon as Apple changes the folder structure of Mac OS X, but IIRC it has been the same since Mac OS X 10.0 (at least concerning the Preferences and the Application Support folder). Gruß Christian ---------------------------------------- Christian Dorn realbasic {a} online.de REALbasic 2009r5 Studio iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM PowerMac G5 2x2GHz, 1.5 GB RAM Mac OS X 10.6.2 ---------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:17 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:17:50 -0700) |
| From: Norman Palardy |
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On 1-Mar-10, at 3:03 PM, ER wrote: > >>> >>> It gives me -5000 >> >> -5000 is indeed a permission problem. >> >> Are you sure you're pointing in the same folder (in your app and in >> the test you made in the Finder) and the app is running as the same >> user as you (same as the Finder)? Check the absolute path of your >> folderitem to be sure. > > Looks like f *pplicationSupportFolder doesn't point to where I > though it did. Appears it points to the root/admin (whatever) > not the users, which seems kind of odd to me. I would think it would > point to the users. It does in later versions but this is a very ancient version that probably uses an ancient API to get that directory _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:07 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:07:18 -0700) |
| From: Norman Palardy |
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On 1-Mar-10, at 2:09 PM, ER wrote: > >>> >>> Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. >> >> After the CreateAsFolder line, put MsgBox str(f.LastErrorCode). >> What does it tell? > > It gives me -5000 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2237?viewlocaleà_US -5000 accessDenied Incorrect access for this file/folder and in 5.5 ApplicationSupport is the one in The currently active system folder (I don't know if that is /System/Library/ ApplicationSupport or /Library/ApplicationSupport on OS X) which is probably not the one you want and that you cant just write to willy nilly. What you really probably want is PreferencesFolder.Parent.Child("Application Support").Child( .... my app ...... ).child( .. file .....) which should be in the Users home folder > Library > Application Support > my app > y data file (or something like that) This is one of those things that's been fixed over the years to make it much easier on you _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:03 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:03:19 -0600) |
| From: ER |
|
>> >> It gives me -5000 > > -5000 is indeed a permission problem. > > Are you sure you're pointing in the same folder (in your app and in > the test you made in the Finder) and the app is running as the same > user as you (same as the Finder)? Check the absolute path of your > folderitem to be sure. Looks like f jpplicationSupportFolder doesn't point to where I though it did. Appears it points to the root/admin (whatever) not the users, which seems kind of odd to me. I would think it would point to the users. Then again what do I know.. ;-) _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 23:00 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:00:23 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Christian Dorn wrote: > ApplicationSupportFolder – which is deprecated and doesn't exist in > newer version of Rb by the way – points to "/Library/Application > Support" and not "~/Library/Application Support". As a normal user > you can't create files/folders in "/Library/Application Support". > > Gruß Humm.. I thought it pointed to the users, no the admin/root (whatever its called). At least I would thing that would be logical thing to do, point to the users Application Support folder. Oh well, no biggie. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 22:26 (Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:26:37 +0100) |
| From: Someone |
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Le 1 mars 10 à 22:09, ER a écrit:
>>> Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. >> >> After the CreateAsFolder line, put MsgBox str(f.LastErrorCode). >> What does it tell? > > It gives me -5000 -5000 is indeed a permission problem. Are you sure you're pointing in the same folder (in your app and in the test you made in the Finder) and the app is running as the same user as you (same as the Finder)? Check the absolute path of your folderitem to be sure. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 22:25 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:25:24 -0500) |
| From: Charles Yeomans |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, ER wrote: > >>> >>> Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. >> >> After the CreateAsFolder line, put MsgBox str(f.LastErrorCode). >> What does it tell? > > It gives me -5000 > And that's your answer. Look up the meaning of that error code, and proceed from there. Charles Yeomans _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 22:21 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:21:02 +0100) |
| From: Christian Dorn |
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ApplicationSupportFolder – which is deprecated and doesn't exist in newer version of Rb by the way – points to "/Library/Application Support" and not "~/Library/Application Support". As a normal user you can't create files/folders in "/Library/Application Support".
Gruß Christian ---------------------------------------- Christian Dorn realbasic {a} online.de REALbasic 2009r5 Studio iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM PowerMac G5 2x2GHz, 1.5 GB RAM Mac OS X 10.6.2 ---------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 22:09 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:09:25 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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>> >> Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. > > After the CreateAsFolder line, put MsgBox str(f.LastErrorCode). What > does it tell? It gives me -5000 _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 22:08 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:08:50 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> Your code does the following steps? Certainly massaged to work with > your program. When it comes to opening a file for reading or > writing, don't skimp on the tests that you perform. At least that > way, should an error occur, you have a better idea what the problem > is. > Yep pretty much. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 21:16 (Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:16:45 +0100) |
| From: Someone |
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Le 1 mars 10 à 21:10, ER a écrit:
>> An authorization problem, perhaps? >> Can you actually create the folder manually in the Finder? > > Could be... > > Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. After the CreateAsFolder line, put MsgBox str(f.LastErrorCode). What does it tell? _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 21:10 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:10:15 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> An authorization problem, perhaps? > Can you actually create the folder manually in the Finder? Could be... Yep, went and made one in the applicationSupport Folder manually. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 21:08 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:08:57 -0600) |
| From: ER |
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> > First, you should check to see that ApplicationSupportFolder returns > a non-nil object (it appears to in your case, but it's not > guaranteed in general), and that it exists. Then check its > permissions. > > Charles Yeomans > Yep done that. f kpplicationSupportFolder and its fine. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 21:01 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:01:22 -0600) |
| From: Harrie Westphal |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:25 PM, ER wrote: > I'm trying to save a file to a folder in the applicationSupportFolder but I'm running > into a problem that it doesn't exist. > > Ok so I point to it > f = applicationSupportFolder.child("PS") > > then see if one exists or nil. If no folder, then create one > f.createAsFolder > > Then I check again for nil or exists and it comes up exists is false. > > Is there something special you need to do with applicationSupportFolder ? Your code does the following steps? Certainly massaged to work with your program. When it comes to opening a file for reading or writing, don't skimp on the tests that you perform. At least that way, should an error occur, you have a better idea what the problem is. f = applicationSupportFolder if f = nil then MsgBox "Nil folderitem for applicationSupportFolder" return // or whatever is appropriate where your code resides, same for all the other returns here end if // just to see that it is pointing to folder you expect plus its permissions are okay MsgBox f.absolutePath + EndOfLine + Oct(f.Permissions) if not f.exists then MsgBox "Crud…applicationSupportFolder does not exist" return end if f = f.child("PS") if f = nil then MsgBox "Nil folderitem for PS" Return end if if not f.exists then f.createAsFolder end if if not f.directory then MsgBox "Dang…PS is a file, not a directory" Return end if f = f.child("NameOfMyFileGoesHere") if f = nil then MsgBox "Nil folderitem for NameOfMyFileGoesHere" Return end if if f.exits then // open file using open method appropriate for this file else // open file with create method appropriate for this file end if === A Mac addict in Tennessee === _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 20:46 (Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:46:20 +0100) |
| From: Someone |
|
Le 1 mars 10 à 20:25, ER a écrit:
> Hi - > > I'm trying to save a file to a folder in the > applicationSupportFolder but I'm running > into a problem that it doesn't exist. > > Ok so I point to it > f = applicationSupportFolder.child("PS") > > then see if one exists or nil. If no folder, then create one > f.createAsFolder > > Then I check again for nil or exists and it comes up exists is > false. > > Is there something special you need to do with > applicationSupportFolder ? > > I gotten my app to work with Document folder but the app one is > being a problem. > > I looked in the applicationSupportFolder and no folder has been > created. An authorization problem, perhaps? Can you actually create the folder manually in the Finder? _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: applicationSupportFolder |
| Date: 01.03.10 20:45 (Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:45:44 -0500) |
| From: Charles Yeomans |
|
On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:25 PM, ER wrote: > Hi - > > I'm trying to save a file to a folder in the > applicationSupportFolder but I'm running > into a problem that it doesn't exist. > > Ok so I point to it > f >pplicationSupportFolder.child("PS") > > then see if one exists or nil. If no folder, then create one > f.createAsFolder > > Then I check again for nil or exists and it comes up exists is > false. > > Is there something special you need to do with > applicationSupportFolder ? > > I gotten my app to work with Document folder but the app one is > being a problem. > > I looked in the applicationSupportFolder and no folder has been > created. First, you should check to see that ApplicationSupportFolder returns a non-nil object (it appears to in your case, but it's not guaranteed in general), and that it exists. Then check its permissions. Charles Yeomans _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
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