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| Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 28.05.10 20:22 (Fri, 28 May 2010 15:22:24 -0400) |
| From: Jim Dossey |
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I have a client/server app where I need to determine if the client that I'm
talking to (on the server side) is on my local LAN or is remote. I have the local and remote IP addresses in the TCPSocket class, and I have the local subnet mask from System.GetNetworkInterface. I think that if I do a bit-wise AND on each IP address with the subnet mask, that will give me the network addresses, which I can then compare to see if the client is local or remote. But given that the IP addresses and subnet mask are strings, I'm not sure how to do the bit-wise AND. Anybody have an idea on how to do that? _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 01.06.10 09:55 (Tue, 1 Jun 2010 03:55:49 -0500) |
| From: Keith Bennett |
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| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 01.06.10 08:02 (Tue, 1 Jun 2010 02:02:09 -0500) |
| From: Keith Bennett |
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| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 31.05.10 22:36 (Mon, 31 May 2010 14:36:14 -0700) |
| From: Eric M. Williams |
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On May 31, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Jim Dossey wrote: > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Joe Huber <<email address removed>> wrote: > >> At 1:37 PM -0700 5/28/10, <email address removed> wrote: >> There are many campus or commercial environments where being on a different >> subnet would not be a good proxy for remoteness. What aspect of remoteness >> was the OP trying to detect? > > To answer your question, this is for a custom app running on a LAN with 3 or > 4 remote offices. The server picks one of the clients to be the "master > client" and I'd prefer to use one of the local clients for performance > reasons. Perhaps a better approach would be to test the performance of each client, because even local addresses could be slow - for example, a dialed-in VPN user would have a local address but a (potentially) very slow link. Eric M. Williams Oxalyn _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 31.05.10 21:43 (Mon, 31 May 2010 16:43:26 -0400) |
| From: Jim Dossey |
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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Joe Huber <<email address removed>> wrote:
> At 1:37 PM -0700 5/28/10, <email address removed> wrote: > >> How about just checking if the string contains the string for your local >> netmask? You know, like checking for 10.0.1., 192.168.1. or whatever. >> > That would only work if the prefix length (ie the number of 1 bits in the > subnet mask) was an even multiple of 8 and thus aligned to the textual > character boundaries. If would be better to convert the strings to integers > as Keith suggested... > > I'm curious about why the OP wanted to know if the client was on a > different subnet, and whether that's the best way to detect if his client is > 'remote'. Would remoteness be better defined by lower bandwidth, longer > latency, lack of multicast support, NAT or firewall issues, etc. > > There are many campus or commercial environments where being on a different > subnet would not be a good proxy for remoteness. What aspect of remoteness > was the OP trying to detect? > > Best regards, > Joe Huber To answer your question, this is for a custom app running on a LAN with 3 or 4 remote offices. The server picks one of the clients to be the "master client" and I'd prefer to use one of the local clients for performance reasons. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 29.05.10 00:59 (Fri, 28 May 2010 16:59:38 -0700) |
| From: Joe Huber |
|
At 1:37 PM -0700 5/28/10, <email address removed> wrote:
>How about just checking if the string contains the string for your local >netmask? You know, like checking for 10.0.1., 192.168.1. or whatever. That would only work if the prefix length (ie the number of 1 bits in the subnet mask) was an even multiple of 8 and thus aligned to the textual character boundaries. If would be better to convert the strings to integers as Keith suggested... I'm curious about why the OP wanted to know if the client was on a different subnet, and whether that's the best way to detect if his client is 'remote'. Would remoteness be better defined by lower bandwidth, longer latency, lack of multicast support, NAT or firewall issues, etc. There are many campus or commercial environments where being on a different subnet would not be a good proxy for remoteness. What aspect of remoteness was the OP trying to detect? Best regards, Joe Huber _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 28.05.10 21:37 (Fri, 28 May 2010 13:37:07 -0700) |
| From: fargo rpgportland.com |
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> I have a client/server app where I need to determine if the client that
> I'm > talking to (on the server side) is on my local LAN or is remote. I have > the > local and remote IP addresses in the TCPSocket class, and I have the local > subnet mask from System.GetNetworkInterface. I think that if I do a > bit-wise AND on each IP address with the subnet mask, that will give me > the > network addresses, which I can then compare to see if the client is local > or > remote. But given that the IP addresses and subnet mask are strings, I'm > not sure how to do the bit-wise AND. Anybody have an idea on how to do > that? How about just checking if the string contains the string for your local netmask? You know, like checking for 10.0.1., 192.168.1. or whatever. Might have more overhead than using bitwise, but probably about the same or better than converting the string to an integer first. Oh, and to answer your actual question, an ip address or netmask is a grouping of 8 bit values, called octets, and can thus be converted to various other numerical notations, like a single integer or straight binary. For the math and more info you might look at these pages- http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/IP2Integer.jsp http://www.justin-cook.com/wp/2006/11/28/convert-an-ip-address-to-ip-number-with-php-asp-c-and-vbnet/ Best, Fargo _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> |
| Re: Determining Local clients vs. Remote clients |
| Date: 28.05.10 20:50 (Fri, 28 May 2010 14:50:45 -0500) |
| From: Keith Bennett |
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